Showing posts with label Tonic Immobility. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tonic Immobility. Show all posts

Friday, August 22, 2014

Cristina - great Outreach!

Source.

Brava!

Once again, this is as good as it gets.
Really nice to see her evolving from prominent dive instructor doing tricks with Sharks to respected international Shark conservation advocate.

And I find this.
In the water, Zenato does a combination of petting and stroking the sharks to place them in a state of physical and mental repose, which she said is wrongly termed as tonic immobility

“I call it the relaxed state,” she said. “The difference between what I do and real tonic immobility is that you can force tonic immobility onto every shark of every size, gender or species. It’s done in aquariums and in the open ocean by forcefully turning the shark upside down

“People say, ‘Oh, we’ve been doing tonic immobility for 30 years! You’re not doing something new,’” Zenato said, rolling her eyes. “Well, I am, actually. I use minimal touch and never force. I just give them a gentle rub, and if the shark doesn’t want to be rubbed, they’ll swim away. Not everyone can put a shark to sleep. It has to be the right person, the right shark, at the right time. The shark has to want it.” 
Indeed - re-read this!
Could those people out there who continue to publicly blather about the subject finally take note that this is NOT what has been shown to harm the Sharks, and that it is NOT harassment let alone animal cruelty. And like him or not, this also applies to what Eli does with the Tigers and Lemons in TB.

But I'm digressing as always.
Brava Cristina, job well done!

Sunday, March 23, 2014

Tonic - bad for the Sharks?

Tonic on OWT - source.

Hmmmm.

Read this.
The author did contact me a while ago asking what I thought about the topic, at which I replied, c/p, Methinks yer wasting yer time there… those sharks can easily stomach a bit of stress… compare to when they get hooked and have to endure long fights … or better, compare to those 100m being killed every year and ask yerself, where should you invest your time… 

Well, she has obviously persevered.
I must say that I'm rather underwhelmed - by the persevering, by the quasi-verbatim parroting of Wikipedia, and by the I believe inaccurate and confusing content. Not a big deal really, and I was gonna ignore it - but now both David and Domeier have chosen to chime in, and it is obviously creating a bit of a kerfuffle which is actually orders of magnitude more irritating than the post itself!
So there.

But first, watch this.



This is the real tonic.
Sharks go into a catatonic state when flipped upside down, and this has been used by researchers as a comparatively non-invasive method to restrain Sharks when working on them, e.g. when inserting acoustic tags etc. Contrary to what Wikipedia claims, it appears to work with most Elasmobranchs as witnessed by the above but also countless other pictures and video of all kinds of Sharks of all kinds of sizes.
It is certainly stressful but likely not life threatening and considering the alternatives = chemical sedation or restraining with ropes or hauling out of the water, I find it an elegant way to profit from a natural phenomenon and can certainly live with the bit of discomfort it causes - as probably can the Sharks!

So what about this rant?
What I find appalling there is the disrespectful forced manhandling that serves no other purpose than to create a stupid macho show for stupid tourists. That may have been cool decades ago but times have changed - now it is only pathetic and we in the industry should be better than that.

Now, watch this.



Yes this is obviously Cristina.
Ethically, the big difference here is that there is no forcing: the Sharks are obviously eager to approach her, to the point that I hear that they will sometimes push away other Sharks from her knees in order to get the "treatment".

But this is not tonic immobility!
Contrary to the real tonic that is being linked to e.g. mating, I cannot imagine any "natural application" where a Shark's sensitive snout with the many nerve endings and ampullae may ever be stimulated in this way. 
I'm clearly speculating - but I believe that the rubbing may possibly lead to sensory overload, i.e. some sort of trance-like state and/or that the sensation may be highly pleasurable, both of which would explain the total relaxation and the fact that the Sharks are apparently coming back for more and even competing for Cristina's attention. 
In any case, this is not at all what has been investigated by those researchers, and the findings of the various papers about tonic cannot simply be applied willy nilly to these specific situations!

And those pics of Eli and the Tigers?
Watch.



Does that look like tonic to you?
Whilst I can see that Eli tries, so far unsuccessfully, to stimulate their snouts, the Sharks don't appear to enter a trance-like state but instead remain in constant movement and are never really relaxed, to the point that I would argue that I see signs of irritation and/or lack of orientation. Yes the Sharks do come back for more - but IMO they do so because that's where the bait is, not because they desire more manhandling.
What Eli does, is merely to use a trick to flip those Tigers on their back that can sometimes result in one to multiple rotations around their axis - and the posted pictures of inverted and/or vertical Tiger Sharks are completely misleading as they merely depict a totally transitory state.
All this is possibly slightly stressful - but it harming them? Most likely not!

Ethical considerations?
Yes contrary to the example from Cuba, the Sharks appear to approach voluntarily - but this is essentially a circus act showcasing a person manhandling big predatory Sharks. I must say that I'm on the fence on this one which is obviously highly subjective - but I anticipate that in a couple of years, we will look back on it like we now look back unfavorably on the ubiquitous Sharks wrangling of the eighties. And this may even apply to Cristina's show and before you start, yes, even to our hand feeding of Sharks!

When it comes to the latter.
We still believe that hand feeding is the best and safest way to showcase our Bulls - but as the number of Bulls has continued to increase, we have continued to adapt our protocols and are now hand feeding way less than before, this not for ethical reasons but principally in order to manage the risk to our feeders.
May we once be forced to phase it out completely? Who knows, possibly yes - but not quite yet!

But I'm digressing as always.
Tonic or no tonic, tricks or no tricks, feeding or not: there are now simply too many unprepared and reckless people interacting closely with Sharks in places like Tiger Beach and alas, Bimini. And like the idiotic riding, the trend appears to be ever increasing, to the point that quite recently, some imbeciles have even tried to secretly set sail to Guadalupe to go and flip a GWS for some moronic show on Shark Week. I hear that they got stopped by the authorities - but they or others may try again elsewhere, and I must say that I don't like any of these developments.
Shark feeding is easy, and inducing tonic and the likes possibly too - but to do it sustainably and safely over a long period of time is not a question of bravery or of mastering some simple skills but instead requires dedication, knowledge and quite a bit of serious risk management, something Eli appears to be increasingly aware of.

And I see very little of that.
Instead, I see too much yahoo bravado and adrenaline chasing, too much self promotion, too much profiteering, too much outright stupidity - and way too less knowledge, and respect, admiration and love of the animals.

Once again the question is, quo vadis.
And alas, I'm not terribly hopeful.

Thursday, March 06, 2014

Shark Molesting in Cuba!

Huzzah - we got ourselves a new Shark whisperer! Source.


Well, apparently little has changed.
Alerted by that last picture, I've gone rummaging - and it sure looks like there's a gang of commercial idiots molesting Silky Sharks at the Jardines de la Reina.
Check it out, this is but one of many such videos.



This is so nineties.
Contrary to what happens with Cristina, it's the real tonic.
If memory serves me right, this stuff was started by Stuart Cove who used it to remove hooks from Silkies when diving on FADs. Now it's a stupid macho show for stupid tourists, much like the ever more pervasive wrangling of Tigers at Tiger Beach.

Barf!

Sunday, October 06, 2013

BBC - Interview with Cristina!


Great outreach.

The interview starts at 16:20.
That's how you do it - whilst reaching millions in the process!

Braverrima e auguri!

Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Sunday, June 27, 2010

Tonic

Cristina understands.

"I don't think they like it the way human beings perceive liking it... but definitely there's something positive about it that the Sharks like."



Same-same with Sharkman Mike under her guidance - and for once, a show on Discovery I really did enjoy.



All with a caveat: for professionals only!

Sunday, January 31, 2010

Irritating!


There has been much brouhaha about the above picture.

Now the photographer, one Gerardo de Villar, has posted an explanation on his iDiveSharks page.
If I understand him correctly, this is apparently some kind of voluntary maneuver and not tonic immobility triggered by you-know-who. "Somebody" tells me that the Shark developed the aileron roll in order to avoid being grasped by the snout, a favorite gimmick of the above-mentioned Mister.

Hmmmm...
Whatever it is, it continues to irritate me.