tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post2881655809421056093..comments2024-03-25T12:38:37.998+12:00Comments on The Best Shark Dive in the World!: Fix those bloody Tags!Andrew Cumminghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14675497080700112390noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-40857110187912550452011-07-27T20:04:24.702+12:002011-07-27T20:04:24.702+12:00For what it's worth. Domeier attached a tag to...For what it's worth. Domeier attached a tag to a shark that already had a deformed dorsal fin when it was landed. I don't know, but it could be the same shark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-1718523135870579432011-04-04T01:44:29.264+12:002011-04-04T01:44:29.264+12:00blogger 'DaShark' wrote:
'Whatever - r...blogger 'DaShark' wrote:<br />'Whatever - right? :)<br /><br />As I said, I'm closing this thread.<br />But I DO appreciate your insightful contributions to the tagging debate - provided that they remain CONSTRUCTIVE!'<br /><br /><br />--Constructive? You mean controlled and scripted right? You seem to be blowing bubbles from both ends. And so it goes.<br /><br />Aloha,<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-11420129737278495942011-04-03T10:41:53.091+12:002011-04-03T10:41:53.091+12:00Ciao Sean
OK one last comment from my side, and t...Ciao Sean<br /><br />OK one last comment from my side, and then this topic is closed - and no, I won't let you answer, this in exchange for having allowed you to post all that Hawaiian pseudo-native gibberish.<br /><br />My blog my rules! :)<br /><br />"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim"<br /><br />SWFH claims that it wants to protect DaSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787762757245289307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-19141191665188614942011-04-02T04:57:07.544+12:002011-04-02T04:57:07.544+12:00Hawaiian Coalition for Enforcement of Shark Protec...Hawaiian Coalition for Enforcement of Shark Protections:<br /><br />(Sharks can be viewed by tourists without self indulgent tour guides feeding the sharks and offering canned wildlife experiences)<br /><br />Shark viewing can be accomplished without feeding the wildlife.<br /><br />In Hawaii, numerous ocean lovers, community organizations, canoe clubs, surf organizations, boating clubs, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-21308335430431389822011-04-02T04:46:46.075+12:002011-04-02T04:46:46.075+12:00Blooger 'Mike' wrote:
1. HI. you are part...Blooger 'Mike' wrote:<br /><br />1. HI. you are part of Safe Waters for Hawaii. Those folks claim that the Shark feeding operations offshore endanger public safety by precipitating Shark attacks on the coast. <br /><br /><br />Mike, Safe Waters for Hawaii is a huge coalition with many supporters with many perspectives. Our involvement is focused on 'shark safety' and it so happensAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-71562920466325154092011-03-27T10:23:05.446+12:002011-03-27T10:23:05.446+12:00Bula Sean
you really need to re-read my comment(s...Bula Sean<br /><br />you really need to re-read my comment(s).<br /><br />1. HI. you are part of Safe Waters for Hawaii. Those folks claim that the Shark feeding operations offshore endanger public safety by precipitating Shark attacks on the coast. Scientific research claims otherwise, but there is evidence that fishermen and spearos both condition and feed the animals on the coast - and yet, DaSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787762757245289307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-55089046154408356152011-03-27T05:22:20.671+12:002011-03-27T05:22:20.671+12:00Well, that's just cheap...
Cant you stop maki...Well, that's just cheap...<br /><br />Cant you stop making allegations, insinuations and innuendos?<br /><br />I dont have any alignment with spearfisherman anymore than you have an alignment with Japanese whalers.<br /><br />It's a standard dodge, deflect focus from cogent matters to personal gossips.<br /><br />Sharks learn, they can learn to recognize boat motors as well as speargun Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-26416131023236151762011-03-26T20:25:19.450+12:002011-03-26T20:25:19.450+12:00OK Sean
Back from a great dive where we fed some B...OK Sean<br />Back from a great dive where we fed some Bull Sharks :)<br /><br />1. You say "feeding wildlife IS NOT good wildlife care" and you apply that to Sharks. That is a testable hypothesis. You know the game (as in: the scientific method): now it is incumbent on you to test that hypothesis, ie to come up with proof (not mere conjecture) as to why that is the case. Contrary to DaSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787762757245289307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-82894910070673197942011-03-26T14:05:19.877+12:002011-03-26T14:05:19.877+12:00Anon: all good, that's just what sometimes can...Anon: all good, that's just what sometimes can happen when people go spear fishing.<br /><br />Good also to see that the media are treating this evenly and that they are giving good advice to the spear fishermen!DaSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787762757245289307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-44215831748276820922011-03-26T12:10:10.847+12:002011-03-26T12:10:10.847+12:00bummer:
http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=16...bummer:<br /><br />http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=169192<br /><br />http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=168992Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-47831206474280459082011-03-26T07:19:20.860+12:002011-03-26T07:19:20.860+12:00Bula Sean, that was a poor choice of words on my p...Bula Sean, that was a poor choice of words on my part, apologies.<br /><br />But, by your advocacy, that's the camp you've ended up supporting in HI.<br />I'm off diving - but let me go rummage and post some evidence as to why I believe that to be the case when I come back.<br /><br />Aloha, MikeDaSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787762757245289307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-311882331168302442011-03-26T04:44:48.565+12:002011-03-26T04:44:48.565+12:00I have not aligned myself with any fisherman in Ha...I have not aligned myself with any fisherman in Hawaii.<br /><br />Many big game sport anglers are resentful of my successful campaigning for sport catch limits and for being an original sponsor of California Assembly bill 522 and Senate Bill 177 which elevated white sharks to a protected (no take) species in California and subsequently it's National Marine Sanctuaries. We are also a leading Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-11400114083514207462011-03-25T13:36:58.844+12:002011-03-25T13:36:58.844+12:00Glad u got that off yer chest buddy - pretty eloqu...Glad u got that off yer chest buddy - pretty eloquent for something u define as being pretty low on the list of sins! :)<br /><br />As I said, I really don't wanna go there - but then, I'm the one who started teasing, so there.<br />For the sake of the argument<br /><br />A. depending on location & species. I would not advocate feeding the Hammerheads in Cocos or the Threshers in DaSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787762757245289307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-15904263679950531962011-03-25T09:34:43.538+12:002011-03-25T09:34:43.538+12:00Open and Free Socratic Debate:
~!to the fray!~
I...Open and Free Socratic Debate:<br /><br />~!to the fray!~<br /><br />I dont think it is complicated at all.<br /><br />A. One can dive and see sharks, and/or conduct shark tours without feeding the sharks.<br /><br />B. Baiting can easily be conducted without feeding the sharks, there are also acoustic and visual attractants that can be used to draw the wildlife close enough to view.<br /><br />CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-74886196961540217082011-03-24T10:59:36.483+12:002011-03-24T10:59:36.483+12:00Bula Sean
I hear you and what you say is obviousl...Bula Sean<br /><br />I hear you and what you say is obviously intuitively plausible.<br /><br />It is however not supported by data, at least not here in Fiji.<br />We've been running an extensive data base on the Shark dive for the past 8 years and know that the individual animals only stay 3-4 days and pursue their "normal" lives elsewhere for the vast majority of the time.<br /><DaSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787762757245289307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-49763624979197593582011-03-24T06:23:52.227+12:002011-03-24T06:23:52.227+12:00Dear Da Shark,
No worries, thank you for you reas...Dear Da Shark,<br /><br />No worries, thank you for you reassurances.<br /><br />Just to be clear, I dont so much worry about your elective sports safety so much as I worry about routine sport feeding of sharks and associated wildlife making the animals more vulnerable to humans.<br /><br />Ordinarily/Naturally, sharks and many marine species are reticent to human proximity and presence, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-9386802791348128132011-03-21T16:42:00.382+12:002011-03-21T16:42:00.382+12:00Thank you, same here!
As for the safety: we feed ...Thank you, same here!<br /><br />As for the safety: we feed 'em but trust me, we got no death wish! :)DaSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787762757245289307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-52621472036119646122011-03-21T16:21:06.329+12:002011-03-21T16:21:06.329+12:00I deal with these issues on a scale, and while sha...I deal with these issues on a scale, and while shark feeding is not proper wildlife care, it is pretty low on the list of sins. Meanwhile the radar is othewise lit up at all times on this and other matters ranging from finning issues to zoos and aquaria colluding with whale shark poachers.... arrrgh!<br /><br />Good on you for calling Domeier out for his invasive methods! Thank you.<br /><br />ASAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-68528909137777910852011-03-21T15:59:12.546+12:002011-03-21T15:59:12.546+12:00Sean you're preaching to the converted here!
...Sean you're preaching to the converted here!<br /><br />Search for "Domeier" on this blog and you will discover that I was one of the first to denounce the Nat Geo show and the shenanigans you are alluding to!<br /><br />Let's see what comes from this - hopefully, some reflection and drastically improved gear and procedures!<br /><br />And if not... :)<br /><br />BTW amusing DaSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787762757245289307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-61011533390100078892011-03-21T15:09:07.936+12:002011-03-21T15:09:07.936+12:00These tags are ' allegedly ' able provide ...These tags are ' allegedly ' able provide different informations and much larger data sets; --so far they have produced injured sharks and largely redundant data to that gathered via the innovative and artisanal "lure and Lance" method.<br /><br />With the careful use of a series of lures, and a small portion of natural bait (never presented or fed to the sharks) a researcher Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-78381347124882301202011-03-21T13:27:47.978+12:002011-03-21T13:27:47.978+12:00Thank you Sean
from what I understand, the SPOT t...Thank you Sean<br /><br />from what I understand, the SPOT tags provide for different information and much larger data sets than those sat and acoustic tags that can be attached on the fly - so there may indeed be a scientific and conservation-oriented case for trying to obtain those data.<br /><br />But not this way, and I fully concur with your other statements!<br /><br />Long story short: theAndrew Cumminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675497080700112390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36324352.post-61362822738794333672011-03-21T12:20:49.725+12:002011-03-21T12:20:49.725+12:00The Domeier expedition to tag white sharks via the...The Domeier expedition to tag white sharks via the use of giant 'hollywood set-prop' barbed hooks was huge leap backwards (overboard) for shark research conservation.<br /><br />This is what happens when the Dept of Commerce (NOAA) permits a cold hearted academic to do a conservation researcher's job; -- never mind the fact that local long term resident researchers have already been Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com